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If you replace every plank of a ship, is it still the same ship?

A famous 1797 frigate may keep as little as a tenth of its original wood, and its own museum still presents it as the real ship.

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It depends on what you mean by "same", and that is exactly why philosophers have argued about it for over two thousand years. The Ship of Theseus is a thought experiment about whether an object stays the same object once every one of its original parts has been swapped for new ones.

The story comes to us from Plutarch. Every year, the Athenians sailed the ship of their legendary king Theseus to the island of Delos to honour Apollo, and as its timbers rotted they replaced them. Eventually people asked: if not a single original plank remains, is it still Theseus's ship? And if it isn't, at which plank did it stop being?

In the 17th century Thomas Hobbes made it worse. Imagine a custodian quietly keeping every discarded plank and rebuilding a second ship from them. Now there are two candidates, one that kept the form and one that kept the matter. Which is the original?

Hobbes's two ships

The repaired ship

  • Every plank replaced over the years
  • Keeps the form and the continuous history
  • Still sails for Athens

The rebuilt ship

  • Built from the discarded old planks
  • Keeps the original matter
  • Assembled by a custodian

The puzzle is not just ancient trivia. The USS Constitution, a frigate from 1797, may keep only ten to twenty percent of its original wood, and its museum uses it as an example of the paradox. Japan's Ise Grand Shrine is rebuilt with new wood every twenty years. Philosophers of mind even use the ship to think about what keeps you being you.

The three-masted wooden frigate USS Constitution under full sail on a calm sea.
The USS Constitution sailing in 1997. Dating from 1797, it may keep only ten to twenty percent of its original wood.Photo: Journalist 2nd Class Todd Stevens, U.S. Navy · Public domain

Quiz me

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  1. 1.What did Thomas Hobbes add to the original puzzle?
  2. 2.Why do deflationists say the puzzle is merely verbal?
  3. 3.Why is the USS Constitution often given as a real-life example of the paradox?

Recap

Hobbes's two ships show two kinds of sameness: the one that keeps the form and the one that keeps the matter.

Surprising fact · The USS Constitution may keep only ten to twenty percent of its original 1797 wood, yet it is still considered the real ship.

Sources (2)

No source, no claim. Every fact in this lesson (16 claims) cites at least one of these.

  1. [1]Ship of Theseus · Wikipedia
  2. [2]Identity Over Time · Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
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